Author Interview: Joanna Penn, author of the ARKANE thrillers.
You are in for a treat with this one. Joanna Penn is amazing! I am a huge fan, not only of her terrific
Arkane series, but also of her blog and podcast, www.TheCreativePenn.com. Joanna has given hours of her time to help
other writers achieve their goals and dreams, and I, as one of them, can’t say
enough about how much I appreciate her efforts.
I was absolutely thrilled when she agreed to be interviewed because she
has so much great information. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
About her:
Joanna Penn is the author of the ARKANE thrillers,
Pentecost and Prophecy. Read more at www.JFPenn.com
Joanna is also an entrepreneur and
professional speaker. Her site for writers www.TheCreativePenn.com has been voted one of the Top 10 sites for
writers 2 years running and offers articles, audio and video on writing,
publishing and book marketing. Connect with Joanna on twitter @thecreativepenn
You
started out as an IT consultant, what made you want to switch to being a
writer? What was your motivation?
Joanna
Penn: I always wanted to be an author but for many years I
was blocked by thinking I had to write literary fiction, and prize-winning
sentences. When the penny dropped that writing books of other genres was
absolutely fine, then I started finally to express myself.
In terms of switching, I spent 13 years as an IT
consultant and it was soul-destroying work where nothing ever remained, and
certainly there was little of anything creative or joyful in it. I wanted to
spend my time building something for the future, entertaining people, inspiring
people and creating assets for my own business, not someone else’s.
Here’s a longer answer on how I went from
affirmation to reality over a four year period. www.thecreativepenn.com/2011/09/12/creative-author/
Your
Arkane series is a riveting thrill ride; can you give me any tips on creating a
suspenseful thriller?
Joanna
Penn: I think modeling success is critical. I
deconstructed a successful thriller by one of my favorite authors, James
Rollins in order to learn how the structure worked. I made a spreadsheet and
for every scene, I wrote down the first sentence, last sentence, what happened,
the pacing, how many pages it was, whose point-of-view it was and basically
tried to understand how the book worked. A few things clicked for me after
that, like writing in scenes which revolutionized my thinking and book
construction.
So I’d advise you to do that with a book you want to
emulate.
Where
do you get your ideas for writing? I would imagine you do a lot of research.
Joanna
Penn: I love researching and I read a lot of non-fiction
which informs my writing. For example, I’m just reading ‘Stiff’ by Mary Roach
which is about cadavers and what happens to bodies when they’re donated for
medical research or embalmed. I’m combining some of that material with ‘The
Knife Man’ by Wendy Moore which is about John Hunter, one of England’s greatest
anatomists in the time of the resurrection men, when they dug up bodies for
medical dissections. This is for my NaNoWriMo novel, not one of my ARKANE
books.
But basically, I get my inspiration from my
non-fiction reading, across religion and psychology mainly, and then also from
travel, architecture and art history, some of my obsessions.
Your
website, www.TheCreativePenn.com is
one of my favorite website and packed filled with advice for authors on
marketing their books, can you give me three of your favorite tips on
marketing?
Joanna
Penn:
(1) Marketing
is sharing what you love with people who want to hear about it. If you use that
attitude as your guiding star, you will never spam anyone again and it works
across any of the tools available.
(2) Attract
people through being interesting, inspiring or entertaining. For example,
posting pictures of your research on your blog or Pinterest, sharing news
stories related to your book or your niche on twitter.
(3) Email
marketing is still the most effective, so develop relationships with your fans
through a list gathered by asking people to sign up at the back of your books.
I
started listening to the Creative Penn Podcast a few years ago and anxiously
await each new episode. I understand
interviews and recordings take loads of time, what is it that keeps you doing
your podcast, and what benefits have you seen from starting it?
Joanna
Penn: I started the podcast when I was a newbie writer,
blogger and entrepreneur. I knew nothing so I wanted to learn from others so I
started the podcast as a way to get interviews from knowledgeable people. That
is still my driving force, so I try to interview people who I want to hear from
on topics that I am still learning about. So one benefit is learning, or to
challenge my own thoughts.
Another benefit is relationships, with the
interviewees who I spend 45 minutes on the phone with and often end up being
friends with, as well as the mutual marketing that happens when you
cross-promote other people. It’s kind of social karma, kind of relationship
marketing, and also has a benefit for the audience.
All in all, it’s a win-win for everyone which is why
I continue to podcast!
There are over 140 episodes now and you can find the back-list here: www.thecreativepenn.com/podcasts/
Last
question, what bit of advice can you give to an author struggling to get their
work noticed, whether it be by agents, publishers, or readers?
Joanna
Penn: We all struggle to be noticed, and probably the
biggest thing is:
a) do
something
b) keep
doing it over time
I’ve been blogging, tweeting, podcasting, videoing, etc.
for 4 years and really it took several years before anyone knew I existed and
my fiction is still at the bottom of the pile!
It’s about consistency over time, keep delivering
quality work in whatever niche you’re in and slowly, things will happen.
If you want more detail on this, then I really
recommend Michael Hyatt’s great book “Platform: Get Noticed In A Noisy World” or
I have lots of free marketing info here: www.thecreativepenn.com/marketing/
Joanna
thanks again for taking the time out of your busy schedule to do this for
me. I really do appreciate it. So much good advice and tips!
I still don't know what a podcast is, but just as soon as I leave this comment, I'll click over to the link (above) and check it (them?) out. I hope it gives me an idea on how to shed my introverted skin or I'll never "get noisy" about my writing.
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Debra, once you discover podcast you will be hooked. They are like mini writer's conferences you can listen to in your pajamas. There are so many with such great advice. TheCreativePenn.com happens to have one of the best.
DeleteSo many good tips here. Thanks for introducing me to Joanna.
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